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Old June 10th   #17
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Well the ones who give away free shoots in our main field of focus, being family, child/baby, wedding, etc..., are the ones who are just starting out with their 300 dollar XSi, and D3000 and shoot only on Automatic! Their quality and post production is simply not up to par in most situations. We stay busy on a good level for hobbiests. We are not looking to go full time with it either. This is simply a way for us to give great quality shots to people for lower than studio prices on most situations. We have 3 kids and we had taken the first two to studios every month after they were born for pictures...finally we decided we weren't getting what we wanted and started doing the pictures ourselves and it progressed from there!
Haven't you run into the situation where the free shots are 'good enough' for a lot of potential clients? I can really understand the studio costs adding up! And I think that's where a lot of people are starting out, and realizing that if they can charge 'a little', they can recoup their costs. This is probably what has put most studios out-of-business (or on their way out). The studios didn't have much of a choice but to charge what they did due to business overhead--insurance, location, licenses, etc.
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I totally agree about the technology being put straight to camera and basically cutting out post production for most shots. Its almost like they don't want people to learn how to be a true photographer anymore and they just say "click the button and get a beautiful picture"! Which is true in some cases, but eventually those people with those types of cameras will run into a road block along the way and have to learn how to actually do other things!
I definitely does seem that way. But you're right about them hitting that road block. I've had to learn before all the fancy settings, so I still do things manually and can do it on almost any equipment, even cameras never designed to do what I want, lol.

I think the web 2.0 post process is critical to great shots these days, adding that glassy, glossy look. If I can figure out an efficient way to implement post like that, I'd love to do it. I know I can do better, but not with the volume that I do.
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The only magazines I look at are Automotive and Photography, but most of them use freelance photographers. Not sure of the pay of these photographers, but I know most of the automotive ones get paid for their work.
I've had something published in Grassroots Motorsports. I wasn't aware of it, and I got a check in the mail for $25. If that's what they're paying, then that's a lot less than keeping a full time pro on staff. I know Sean must be paid well for him to step up to the 5D, but he's the only local pro that I've seen get hired by a magazine. Automotive magazines can't be paying much because I've seen pixelated covers and other things that just scream 'free image'.
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As far as quality in p&s vs. dslr, I said "in most cases".lol I know that there are a few point and shoots out there that can compete, but they are just simply not capable of doing the wide range that a good quality dslr can do. They can print some decent 4x6, 5x7 and possibly some 8x10s as long as they framed it correctly, but try getting a p&s to print a 24x36 canvas or aluminum print and test your quality against a good dslr print of the same size. You never see photographers using a point and shoot camera at a wedding or a portrait shoot! There are good reasons for this as well!lol
I've seen 8x10s out of mine that come out looking great, and I know I've had people order some larger ones like 24x36 with no complaints. But if I had a good Canon setup, these same shots would be easily 10-15% better. And I definitely know what you mean about using a p&s for weddings. That's the most demanding, stress-filled environment that anyone will ever shoot in. I get requests to do weddings, but I won't do them with my current equipment. I'll usually rent a Canon setup that I know is up to the task. Portraits require really, really sharp glass, and a prime is almost the only way to go. And the only p&s that I know of to come with a prime was is the Sigma dp1.
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