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Old August 29th   #1
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Project "RE" build.

First and foremost, some of you know the car and some of you know the shop that performed the work. This thread is not being made to bash anyone in anyway. If you do know the shop that performed the work, I ask of you not to name drop. It would go against forum rules and we do not want that to happen.

Saturday I received a text from someone that was to be dropping off a car for me to go over. Well originally it was being brought over a little more than a month and a half ago and the car did not make it to the house. Guy called me and told me what was going on and that he was just down the road from the house. We brought it home with the Land Rover and we took a quick peak at it. This car just came from a local shop where the car was getting a full upgrade. We pop the hood and immediately I was in total shock. There were so many short cuts taken when putting this thing together. I was disgusted to find out the amount of money that was spent on this quality of work. The car was towed back to the shop that performed the work. What makes this worse is that the owner of the car is overseas and has to hear about this kind of stuff via Facebook or email. The car sat at the shop for quite some time after that from what I am told. So back to this past Saturday, I received a text saying that he was bringing the car by. In joking I stated "I hope it makes it here this time lol". Well, sure enough it made it about 200 or so feet further than it did the previous time. We go out there and drag it to house again. You will not believe what actually occurred.

Even not moving these cars are pretty.

Uhhhh.....

Yeah that is exactly what you think it is.

Ductape?!?!?! REALLY?!?!?!?

Guess this was really easy to diagnose.

Yuuuup


I am sure a few of you know exactly what happened. Improper wiring. WAY TOO MANY AMPS!!! We were actually VERY lucky that no one was hurt. I will be posting updates on this car as we go. I was hoping to have this one done along with the r33 before The Speakerbox meet in October, but September is a rough month for me being gone two weekends that month for tuning classes. We may or may not do a booth, but one way or the other we are going to be out there supporting what The Speakerbox does for the Auto community.
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Old August 30th   #2
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Wow, unbelievable. Glad you guys are on the job now to make sure such a beauty is done right! That's a rare color too, isn't it?
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It actually is a fairly rare color, Baltic Blue.
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It's sad to see such poor quality work done. I'm interested to see what comes of this project.
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What got me was seeing the burned up wire--that's not good at all.
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Here are a couple of quick pics of the car. I was hoping to dig into this weekend but was unable to. It will be a couple of weeks before I start going through everything, but waiting on parts to come in to replace the fuel pumps so I can get it running and isolate other issues. I am going to be out of town for tuning classes next weekend along with the following so there won't really be many updates on it. Gotta go get my learn on.




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Oh wow. I believe this is the one you were telling me about, Jeremy. That is some awful "work" that was performed on the car by the other shop.

Im sure you'll get it worked out and hopefully be able to make it out to the meet!
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Oh wow. I believe this is the one you were telling me about, Jeremy. That is some awful "work" that was performed on the car by the other shop.

Im sure you'll get it worked out and hopefully be able to make it out to the meet!
I wish I could. I wanted to do a booth but that may not happen either. I have tuning classes this weekend and next weekend so that is a big chunk out of my time. I am still going to be there because what you guys do their is great for the community, but I just won't get to "showcase" anything.
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Well, I got some time to pull the motor out the Supra and look at quite a few issues. Hope you guys like pictures.

Someone didn't tighten the heater hose.



Down pipe isn't too bad. Just a modified eBay. Turbo not right for the customers wants/needs.

Got the fuel pump issues fixed and spent 20 minutes with the EMS and got it to drive into the garage.


Time to get to work.


Really, an exhaust leak already?!?! oh geeeeez

This doesn't go there.

Only the beginning

No idea where this went

OEM filters are pretty cheap as well as more "wiring"


Open crank vent. Not usually the best of ideas.

Some people do this, and some don't. I don't.

This doesn't look hella ghetto at all.


Chuckle Chuckle

This is what the coolant looked like. This is supposed to be a new motor.

Little messy.

No bead whatsoever.

No coolant lines run to the throttle body or the idle motor.

It is actually compressed more when the other hot side pipe is connected.

eBay intercooler sold kinda high. It will work because of the thickness and the fin pitch.




Crackhead harness out. It will not be going back in.


Stock crank pulley when shooting for 700hp is a bad idea. ATI will replace this one.

More mess.


I hate this.







Quite a bit of bay work to be done. That will be in the next update.
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While I realize how unfortunate this incident is...I have to ask a question as to the forum rules regarding something along these lines.

Why can't a name of a shop be named in this instance? This is effectively a review of one shop's work.

For clarity sake I'll call the unnamed shop here Shop A and BoostFab Shop B.

Granted the "review" is by another sponsor/shop so I could see Shop B not being allowed to name Shop A in their post. However if another member or the owner of the vehicle or someone who had involvement in the work did name the shop...I don't see why that should be an infraction or frowned upon. It is simply providing evidence and possibly preventing another customer from having a terrible experience.

In my eyes if you can't have negative AND positive reviews then no one will really be able to get the real story and speak their mind. Naming this shop seems important to me. Or maybe I am just misunderstanding the intentions behind the rules...
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While I realize how unfortunate this incident is...I have to ask a question as to the forum rules regarding something along these lines.

Why can't a name of a shop be named in this instance? This is effectively a review of one shop's work.

For clarity sake I'll call the unnamed shop here Shop A and BoostFab Shop B.

Granted the "review" is by another sponsor/shop so I could see Shop B not being allowed to name Shop A in their post. However if another member or the owner of the vehicle or someone who had involvement in the work did name the shop...I don't see why that should be an infraction or frowned upon. It is simply providing evidence and possibly preventing another customer from having a terrible experience.

In my eyes if you can't have negative AND positive reviews then no one will really be able to get the real story and speak their mind. Naming this shop seems important to me. Or maybe I am just misunderstanding the intentions behind the rules...
The one thing I have learned is to try my best to stay professional. I am not going to name names as far as this goes because that just gives off the appearance of some kid playing shop with throwing names in the mud. That is not the way I want to earn someones business. I want to earn peoples business by showing them the quality of work that I can provide. The one person that can state the name of the shop is the owner of the car. He is the one that is able to provide a review of the shop that actually did the work. I am not sure if he has joined or not, but he is aware that I am writing this thread and has asked for a link, so I am sure that he will be joining. He is like all of us. We are enthusiast and this is not just a hobby, its a way of life.
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While I realize how unfortunate this incident is...I have to ask a question as to the forum rules regarding something along these lines.

Why can't a name of a shop be named in this instance? This is effectively a review of one shop's work.

For clarity sake I'll call the unnamed shop here Shop A and BoostFab Shop B.

Granted the "review" is by another sponsor/shop so I could see Shop B not being allowed to name Shop A in their post. However if another member or the owner of the vehicle or someone who had involvement in the work did name the shop...I don't see why that should be an infraction or frowned upon. It is simply providing evidence and possibly preventing another customer from having a terrible experience.

In my eyes if you can't have negative AND positive reviews then no one will really be able to get the real story and speak their mind. Naming this shop seems important to me. Or maybe I am just misunderstanding the intentions behind the rules...
Which section of the site rules are you referring to exactly?
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The one thing I have learned is to try my best to stay professional. I am not going to name names as far as this goes because that just gives off the appearance of some kid playing shop with throwing names in the mud. That is not the way I want to earn someones business. I want to earn peoples business by showing them the quality of work that I can provide. The one person that can state the name of the shop is the owner of the car. He is the one that is able to provide a review of the shop that actually did the work. I am not sure if he has joined or not, but he is aware that I am writing this thread and has asked for a link, so I am sure that he will be joining. He is like all of us. We are enthusiast and this is not just a hobby, its a way of life.
Written like a pro. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see this mess get the restoration and correct work it deserves.
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Jeremy just said forum rules in his original post. So I was wondering what forum rule this was...I didn't check it against the actual TOS myself though
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The Supra Story

I'm the owner of the Baltic Blue Supra that had all the shady work done. I originally took the car to the shop in the first week of March 2011 to have it checked out. The timing belt went out at 140 and destroyed the engine and I decided to upgrade everything. This was according to the mechanic that has now caused me to second guess every step of this build process with his shop. It was originally a non-turbo car and I ordered the 6 speed transmission, TRD rear end, and several custom performance parts. I had paid him for all the parts in advance in May 2011 and wasn't going to pay labor until it was done. I was in Afghanistan at the time and kept hearing that the mechanic had run into issues. I got different reasons he wasn't working on my car until I got home. I came home from Afghanistan in August 2011 to work in the states for about 6 months. When I originally stopped by to check out the car, the engine and transmission I had ordered weren't in the car and it looked like it had been neglected for a while. The whole thing was layered with dust and he said he would be done by September 2011. I followed up with him the first week of September and he said he would have it done by October. I decided to go back to Afghanistan in April 2012 and the car still wasn't running right. Once I was back in Afghanistan, he said the car was ready and then we started to notice just how wrong everything was. He wasn't actually working on my car until I was getting ready to go back to Afghanistan. I was there at least every other day to check up on the progress. Another time I showed up, my car was in the back with no one working on it and there were two others in the front of the shop getting tunes. In my opinion, my car was not a priority and I feel like I was taken advantage of because I was in Afghanistan. After the amount of money I spent and the shady work that has to be redone, I'm pissed. I will recommend strongly that anyone needing serious and professional work done on their car to avoid Trackmasters in Huntsville like the plague. I feel like I was robbed of my time and my money with this shop. It's now October 1, 2012 and the car is still in need of MAJOR work caused by the poor practices used by Trackmasters.
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Well it was time to get the engine bay straightened out. The bay was just nasty and greasy. Anytime I have every pulled a motor out of a car I clean it. Mainly because if I even change the oil in a car and I see dirt I begin to clean it off. Well.... that wasn't done originally. It may not be required, but in my mind the right thing to do. Well on to the pics.


Random piece of loom in the fender pockets.

Getting more work done.

First off if you cannot see the bay, it is freaking nasty greasy.



You can actually see in this picture where they damaged the condenser when removing the engine. The core support was actually damaged as well, but that should be an easy fix.


This is one thing that actually gets on my nerves. Don't cut a big freaking hole in the car if it is not really needed. There is another, a shorter, path that can be taken to get to the intercooler.






The only grease that was needed here was elbow. Well.... that and a pressure washer with a little purple power :-)

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Out of the garage getting ready to be sprayed.



Shiny!!!


I also decided to go ahead and pull the Greddy manifold off. First, this was sold at a new price, but this appears that it has be used. That's a big no no in my book. I am not saying don't use used parts and that I don't pick up used parts for customers, but that stuff is typically power steering brackets and reservoir. Oh, as well as the blades for the fan clutch. Well, anyways, here are some pics.

UGH...


Home depot racing FTW!!! There was also a was wedged in between the gasket. That could have caused quite a bit of damage to the turbo. Bolts TOO long and not right for these temps.


This is supposed to be a brand new head as well as a brand new manifold. WHY YOU LEAK!?!?!?!?!?
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Jeremy just said forum rules in his original post. So I was wondering what forum rule this was...I didn't check it against the actual TOS myself though
I saw that too, but I think he was posting to multiple forums with the same message.

Some really good detective work. It's good to see the blue in the engine bay again.
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So, all this was done by Arthur? I would really like to hear his explanation of this. And since we all know about cars and would know B.S. when we heard it (or smelled it), he would have no choice but to tell the truth...
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Wow. That's so friggin dangerous! That other shop should be shut down. That's just ridicolous. I don't know what's worse.....them building your car so awful and wrong and dangerous and full of bs, or you serving in Afghanistan so they can freely build your car so awful and wrong and dangerous and full of bs. Sorry you're having to go through this. Can't wait for the final result! And that's a nice size turbo ya got there
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I have ran into a same situation in the past three months. I towed my car to Atlanta to get tuned. I have already been driving the car for several weeks, with zero issues, but running rich. They did a pre dyno inspection on the car for $200 bucks. The tuner found a couple of things wrong on the AEM and couldnt figurre them out. Come to find out it was a bad map sensor. Repalced with a new one, putting wires back together and the steel AN hose going to catch can touched another wire, shorted out three other sensors. Luckily they had extra JZ sensors there from an old motor. Tooke them over 9 hours to reroute the new sensors and wire them in the AEM V2. Car finally got tuned at 338rwhp on a Mustang dyno, tuner kept saying it is running out of fuel. I had a Supra TT fuel pump in it with a direct 12 volt source from battery for power, bypassing the stock ecu and wiring completely. Then he told me it needed new larger lines for fuel. Everyone knows that supra and SC lines are capable of over 500 hp to the wheels. I called BS. I gave them the go ahead to install. Car sat there for over 5 weeks cause the tuner quit and found another job. I was without my car and it being tuned from I wanted to begin with. They hit me with a bill of over 3K just in labor and fuel lines with fittings. I had no choice but to pay it, to get my car back. There was much more, but this aint the place to discuss it. PM for further details. I am also proffesional and dont like calling names.

I have heard about Trackmasters and their dyno's and work. Mostly bad, but some good, when I ask someone about them, they just pause for a second and then go into a story. I also learned my lesson NOT TO LEAVE A CAR WITH A SHOP and you dont have the means to go by and check every three days or so. I am also in the military and know how it feels when you are overseas fighting in combat and supporting the war. It gets you down and hopeless, cause you are over 9K miles away and nothing you can do do but email and call, and hopefully get an answer. This world has come to everyone mostly thinking, what is in it for me, or what do I get out of it. This is why I made a pay it forward thread. I hate your pretty Baltic Blue supra is under the knife again and can only imagine the $$$ spent. Lets hope the new mechanic will get it all done. Check out Driftmotion for the parts... Thats who I used. Sorry to hear about your misfortunate experience, but in ten years it wont have mattered anyway... lets go boosting together sometime in the future. If you need a hand, PM me, be glad to come lend a helping wrenching hand. Be safe and get home soon, if not already.....
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